The US Govt/NASA are hiding very important and even critical data pointing to the fact that Earth magnetosphere is reversing to point directly back at the Sun.
Remember that the HMO ( Heavy Mass Object) is inbound from the Leo Constellation directly opposite the Sun right now, which is more evidence that Earth is under the influence of a second heliosphere with an inner and outer reach of influence extending from the inbound HMO coming into the inner solar system for an orbit around our Sun.
Additional information:
Real-Time SWMF (Magnetosphere-Ionsphere – image browser
Plasma flow reversals at the Dayside and the origin of Asymmetric Polar Cap convenction PDF
NICT Real-Time Magnetosphere Simulation
Source and author: Suspicious0bservers * TerralO3 NASA
Man you really need some treatment. I’m going to waste this last post with you and that’s it and I’m going to make it very simple and clear in order for you to understand.
1- I did not try to influence anybody thoughts. If you know how to read, I have pointed several times that anyone should do its own research and also be aware that the internet can be very useful but there’s also a lots of garbage;
2- I mentioned that the 188 days cycle theory is wrong because a) it stated that on March 22, 2012 a 9.0 earthquake would occurred and would move the earth axis by 5 inches; b) the theory left behind several earthquakes and I gave examples, so it manipulates the data. Considering these two facts, the theory is wrong. If you can’t understand this… lol
3- I mentioned that there are other theories that are considering the possibility of the increasing earthquakes have been caused by a photon belt ou the different radiation the sun is releasing or still the huge volume of water on the planet due to the melting of polar ice. All this are possibilities, you are the one bragging with proofs.
4- Also stated that elenin theories were wrong and the comet was just that… a comet. You have proofs that states Elenin was something else? Fine, great. Just asked you to present it. Did you? No, you just argued that if people want proof, people should research for themselves. Lol what a cientific agument.
As for this last one, you ask for proofs that the comet were just a comet and claim that these eventual proofs were manipulate by the mainstream. Ok, maybe they were, let’s assume that. But you claim to have other proofs. Ok, share it or else you are just as bad as the ones you accuse.
@Rod
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Rod. It is a Rare thing that I ever use the word proof, because I have long since come to realize that proof to one person does Not constitute what qualifies as proof to another. Thus, I continually maintain that Proof is subjective. Proof is in the eye of the beholder.
I prefer the word evidences.
Which, Have been provided for you. All you have to do is go look to where I have directed. I called it home work. No one else will do it for you.
Now, from this point on we are clearly beginning to become abusive.
I’ld like to tone it back and return to the subject matter actually at hand.
Ive done as much as I am willing for you. Take what I have taught you in How to conduct research and run with it mate. I wont be addressing this again. Its become a distraction for this thread.
Be well.
~ VARAKIENEN.
wat up… who really cares wat happens i mean wat if the world just explodes killing everyone for the 2012 apocolypse on december 21 2012 then wat haha just sayn dont sit around worring about wats gona happen..
What do you need Rod? Do you need pin point, fool proof, when it is projected to happen, it does happen? There are way to many variables floating out there for pin point accuracy. Your position is absolutely the norm. I see it all the time. I do it myself..I chuckle when I realize I am in a big hurry and “nature” is just not on my time schedual. We are dealing with math here but it appears some of the elements we were not aware existed are creating a new math.
I believe it was pointed out that we are really new to this celestial game. With out our new technologies, we would not have a clue. Everything is a theory. While there is some “new” information, it is admittedly not complete. Just the change in the behavior of the sun has come as a complete surprise to a whole lot of folks who were SURE they had it figured out. The science guys are pretty shaken at this point. I don’t believe they actually know what is going on. I keep seeing new releases from the public relations folks at NASA about a new discovery here and there and then they shut up tight, remove data and hunker down.
There are, however other signs out there that can be a tip off that something is going on that noone has control of. Look at the “chicken little” chatter. It is every where. You remember “chicken little” – right? That was the little feathered guy who, while walking along, got hit with a flying stone or something. He was stunned. Not being able to understand what a stone was doing flying through the air like that, he simply assumed that it was part of the sky. Thus he became filled with panic but because of his brave and heroic nature, he ran back to the flock shouting, “The sky is falling! The sky is falling!” Now, it appears that was not a really good choice. Seems that the flock, suddenly awakened from a comfortable life style, became equally terrified and don’t ya know, the whole barn yard was soon a scene of creatures running in wild circles, screaming to the sky.
What chicken little did not know was, the electromagnetic connection his brain had to the electricomagnetic matrix generated by the planet its self, had been disrupted. Somewhere on this information site, a man who lives in Australia witnessed exactly this effect in the huge flock of birds in his area. They had just experienced a “rain” of spiders…you may have seen news reports about it here and there..it was quite spectacular. As this man sat on his porch steps, he listened to this flock of birds screaming in terror because they could not find their bearings to fly away but rather found themselves wildly flapping in circles. At the same time, the animals in the area were putting up a hell of a noise as they too searched for an escape but found none. He said it was the erriest thing he has ever experienced.
Over the last 10 or 20 years, it has been discovered that homing pidgions are getting lost and dolphins and various whale groups have beached themselves without the ability to change direction…These are clues that something electromagnetic is going on..all of these animals are equiped with sonar devices of one sort or the other to get them through their migration chores.
In addition humans too are so equipped. While we have a way to communicate information to one another, many of us are acutely affected by the electromagnetic enviornment in which we live. Some of us are unable to get past our own emotional responses in order to understand the intricate information we create with our multi-tasking brain function. Some times it seems even those who have spent their lives searching through information and trying to figure out how things work, are blind sided..We often just don’t see stuff, especially stuff we have not previously established information about. We, however, are much more adaptable than those birds I spoke of above. When confronted with a threatning situation, we allow ourselves to stand back and try to figure out how to fix it or change it or at the very least, survive it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not work.
Thus it is, with all of the variables involved with this galactic movement we are experiencing, our lack of information/science is a complete surprise. Humans just want to go home and have a cold drink while they stare at a wall with moving pictures on it. We are coddled creatures. Like the animals around us we are dependent on our routine. We are emotional creatures who, like chicken little, scream loudly when something happens that does not fit into our comfort zone. Thus one can see on a daily basis the wild “end of the world” theories filled with self blame or herd blame..We are alive, in a skin we are familiar and comfortable in…we are terrified that we will be helpless and victimized.
When making references to the mysterious universe, even those humans who completely believe in a higher power find themselves compelled to make attempts to ‘figure it out”. For all of that, there are those who just don’t want to be bothered with stuff they cannot see and have no control of. These become the deniers. If it is outside of the familiar realm they are used to,they ignore it, while at the same time telling others it cannot exist because if they don’t know anything about it, How can it exist?
These are the folks who do not allow flexibility or flaws in any theory or stated observation. This is also a tool that is used by folks who don’t want other people to KNOW something they feel might cause ‘herd’ panic–”the chicken little effect.” This has been the position of space exploration scientists since the beginning of the space agency. There is a collection of folks who call themselves the “Heritage Foundation”. Years ago, they found a big stone and on it they carved the words, “Don’t tell them!” The THEM they were talking about was US. They were afraid–very afraid. As they dealt with new information about possible civilizations on other planets in our solar system they designed a way to ‘debunk’ the information. Now they are faced with what appears to be a threat to organic life on our planet…Now, you have to know, they are going to fudge the information in some fashion. They, in the meantime, feel the need to survive so the civilization on this planet does not have to start carving arrows out of stone again. Thus, if you watch the information feed closely, you will see efforts being made to not only save themselves, but others they believe will be able to make it through what ever challenge they see so that they can bring their skills to the enormous effort of reestablishing a ‘civilized’ world one more time.
Thus, it becomes important for us ‘just plain folks’ to stay on top of what ever probability is awaiting us. And thus, the continual litany, “DO YOUR HOMEWORK.”
Marina, I agree with most of what you wrote, especially that something electromagnetic is going on that affects not only animals but humans as well. Therefore, I suggested that the proton belt that was discovered can be related. Not saying that it is, but it can. As well, also suggested that the behaviour of the sun and therefore a different type of radiation could affect both animals and humans. What seems to be more acceptable is that we are electromagnetic beings and any variation on electromagnetic particles indeed affects us.
However, what I was trying to highlight was the errors of this 188 days cycle theory. I don’t understand the meaning of giving credit to a theory that misses the facts, either on purpose or not. And as I stated, this theory looses credit when doesn’t mentioned several earthquakes. Why? Because if it did mentioned, there wouldn’t be any 188 days cycle theory. Yet people believe what they want and what they need to believe.
@Rod->I personally see the 188 day cycle math as a bit of a symphony. I don’t know that is necessairly incorrect, but rather, incomplete. It does not take variables into play from what I can see. One of its larger flaws in the apparent disregard for the design of the active plate movements all across the planet..big flaw to say the least. As can be seen by the dutchsinse sismagraph readings, all sorts of things are going on all over the place, all the time.
None the less, I do think he has hit on something–I am just not exactly sure what it is. When I saw that New Madrid figure come up I nearly fell out of m chair. It is completely right on according to the sismo-reads. I will have to go back and see what his comments are on the huge amount of “pop-offs” that take place everywhere..but at the same time, his information corralates to the US east coast in many ways.
He was clear when he called this a theory. He never said this was a fact. It is just another piece to the earthquake puzzle and it was done in the hope that some kind of quasi-prediction ability is found as an early warning system. It is one more piece to a puzzle and he speaks to that in his own way. He does not bring the other external influence data into the formula but he does point out the areas where earthquakes are a regular event. It appears his effort is an attempt to isolate what the regularity is.
It is ok that this theory does not appeal to you. On the other hand, I do suggest you not eliminate it from the pile of things to note on your mental desk. Simply allow it and when you see a flaw, note it and then look to see the why of that observed flaw. That is how science is done. It is mathimatical at its base and then structures of observation are built upon that foundation.
I guess that is what I meant by the doing your home work remark. When I got into astrology, I was one major skeptic…I approached it to prove how wrong it was. I did that for about 5 years and then I began to see that my list of pro and con was taking shape and I began to approach the difficulty I was having as a matter of language rather than math. The math is – as I said to a friend recently – written in stone…At the same time, the math has had to be adjusted to some of the new physics that have come into being as the result of our technology.
I would recommend you look for lectures by Nassim Haramein on UTUBE. He was an eye opener for me. If you do go there, let me know what your thinking is on his stuff. I would love to get your feed back. David Wilcox is another I would recommend..he is fun to watch..both of them are actually. It takes science into a place where high and dry are trumped by OH, I GET IT! My sincere support to you – Marina – Gotta go feed the cats-7:59am est – 3/28/12-USA
I believe you meant David Wilcock
I know both Wilcock and Haramein. I can also suggest to you Drunvalo Melchizedek or a great book “The Morning of the Magicians” by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier.
Well, neither did I state that it was a fact, always said it is a theory. But even a theory must begin with some kind of a correct assumptions or it will fail even as a theory. Look, science is not made by starting with the answers with need to give responses to a question, i.e., a theory is basically a hypothesis and the hypotheses can’t be manipulated to originate the thesis we pretend. So, the point I tried to emphasize was that the theory of 188 days has flaws by failing to consider several earthquakes and I gave examples. Simple as this
Now we’re talkin Rod.
i can agree with you that 188 has some flaws.
But again, Its only as good as the data that started the math.
What I mean is that the symptom/phenomenon definitely has Cycles.
But they are not exact, and some times skip. And other gravitational forces some times get in the way or contribute and pull the effect off course, so to speak. Many of these things were Not configured into the equation.
This doesnt mean that 188 has No merit at all. What it means is that its a work in progress that has shown potential.
Its nice to see you down in the realm of level headed debate, btw, rather than a tirade.
Be well.
~ V.
Getting to know you–this is very cool..and how right you are…I was a bet put off by the 188 day business myself…I am going to have to go back and look more closely at this guys wording.
Now, I gotta tell ya, I just read something that made the hair on the back of my neck stand up so I am not very focused at the moment. I suspect we are dealing with a factor –elf waves–that noone is making allowances for. I will come back with that – I have to make sure I get the link correct..very interesting…I have some major questions and opinions on this matter so I will bring it here in hopes all our friendly ‘researchers’ here can go a digging..although, I suspect caution is required..I will be back..Marina
Well, that’s the problem I have been insisting. The data is incomplete. As it’s conceived it seems like something like “ok, i’m going to determine a 188 days cycle, so I’ll grab some data here and some data there, let’s cook it and… yeah, eureka, it works”. Really? Really? (man, i’m sounding like the Mizz lol). So, what about start considering all the data, for example, all earthquakes above an X magnitude and then let’s see if there is any cycle at all. Otherwise, anyone can create any theory, a 10 days theory, a 30 days theory, etc, etc.
Ok Marina, let’s see what you are cooking
I got this on my ->2012 indy info-lrc-news group->laura Tyco -> it was taken from -> Before its News – author ->Zen Gardner who had posted on Dutchsince face book page…The title is ->Pine Gap and the Australia Quake -> I think the date it was posted was 3/23/12 but I am not sure. The quake was on that date–When 2012 posts, it is a single article – I had this filed under earthquakes and the date I forwarded it to a friend was 3/23/12- But if you can get to Dutchsinse facebook page you might be able to find it there..
What this subject matter has to do with is a super secret military base in the middle of Australia that is generating ELF waves from a unit they have drilled very deeply – a mile? don’t remember..the reason given has to do with submarine communication but I fear this is much more complex. Now, I must tell you I am having major issues with some of the conversation having to do with “world gov” and the like…My interest is the fact that an earthquake in the 5.0 range is not a common factor in this continent. My Australian friend may now have an answer to the the bird behavior he spoke of during the sun burp. The spiders as well…When you read the complexities of this base, let me know what your reaction is. Sincerely, Marina–God I hope you find it. I don’t know how else to get it here. My lack of tech knowledge is legend…
Maybe it has something to do with this Mayaartefact:
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Namaste
Nobody
I need to correct that debth figure–it was 5 miles down–and
Nice to see you mr. nobody…I was just thinking about you the other day. I hope all is well..Sincerely, Marina –and Yes, the artifact is exactly what we saw the sun do that day not all that long ago..Oh, boy! 5:0pm est-3/26/12 usa
Not only you, but all of you who are posting this information may very well be reliable, but the weird music that you and many others use make it seem like a farce.
Yeah I kinda have to agree there.
On oh so Many home made little documentaries and the like, people insist on putting there own taste in music attached.
Uber weird music, and metal or death metal often make me stop watching altogether. Some times I dont even bother to cut the sound, but rather, saddly, just Judge the moron whom added it, and turn the whole thing off.
Yeah, Im bad that way.
~VARAKIENEN.
even tho NASA may be hiding something it just shows that if they’er hiding that who knws wat else ther hiding. al that bs about FEMA and wat not it seems to me that ther just trying to get our attention on that instead of wat really matters.
Hello! What music have I missed..are we talking about content or real music here..?
Well, if one plays music to cover up the content, what does that mean? It just gives skeptics a reason to discredit.
@marina
Hello marina. everthing is on a good way in my life at the moment. hope you are ok too. the pic is strange, i was looking the last days if i can find a good source for the so called mayan artefact…but i found nothing. maybe it is a hoaxartefact…anyhow the thing are changing fsterand faster…something is going on. by the way i found a interessting fruit which is very good against different types of cancer:
http://graviolasecret.com/
maybe you know somebody who is interessted in natural medicine…;)
Namaste
Nobody
PS: I like the hinduword namaste very very much since i know its meaning, and here you can read about the meaning:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste
Well, good morning!!! I have been thinking about you. Yes, I know some folks who might be interested in your natural medicine suggestion. I will post it on my facebook.
So, here is a question for you..Is there any chance you might have a clue why 20,000 people are flooding into that little French town, to climb a mountain, to wait for the UFOS to pick them up. Vara said he has searched for a link or a clue and has not be able to find one. I went looking yesterday and while I found a lot of quasi-doomsday stuff, I could not find a cult link or anything of that nature either. I am wondering how the European press is handling this. It is a rather large exodus, don’t you think? There has to be a motivation–I suggested the Nostradamas fixation as a possible…but I am reminded of the Serbian “Mother Mary” incident that took place before world war 1…
Yes, things are apparently kicking off into high just about everywhere. NAMASTE is the only answer…So nice to see you again,
NAMASTE – Marina 9:19am-est-4/3/12 – usa
@Marina
You know i like the way you think and write marina. i am not so much surfing in the net anymore due to all the fearspreading infos which are increasing heavily. it brings to many bad impressions to my life and i know what i belive becomes reality in my life…so i stop it and start to think now again in positive terms because that will bring positive events in my life to reality…and all this evil stuff disturbs that. i dont want that anymore, i think you can understand this.
The french village story i hear a year or so ago. So due to the “save zone” in france i will say it is BS because if a worldwide catastrophy will happen than one of the consequences will be that all nuclear plants will have the same fate as the nuclear plant in fukushima…that means we will have high radiation rates allover our world we live in…well the rest what will happen than you can think for shure for yourself. Think the only way to prevent us from this sadly realistic horrible scenario is to shut down all nuclear plants in the world right now (but greedy interessts of a handful evil people which have also the power to shut them down still stay against this dream)…i am dreaming of that every day and pray that this dream to shut down them will become true before its too late. so i pray for my enemies like jesus told us.
And nice that you think the same about this honorful greetingform and word namaste..stay safe and the way you are marina.
Namaste
Nobody